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Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby tom eagles » Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:05 pm

Hi Folks

Very shortly we will be launching an entirely new website for condor and upgrading the forums. There will be quite a lot of changes underneath the hood to improve the stability and user experience, not all will be visible on launch as some are related to Condor V2.

One issue that will have an immediate impact is on anyone that currently creates alternative multiplayer server lists using the raw datafeed.
Once the new site launches this will no longer be available in its current form. Instead we will provide access to a JSON file that is updated every 2 minutes, this is inline with how often the current server list updates.

The reason for this is to limit the amount of MySQL queries hitting the server which will rapidly increase with some of the forthcoming changes we have in store for you guys.

So can anyone who currently runs such a list please contact Myself via PM and I will provide you with a sample output for you to work with to modify your existing codebase prior to launch. The good news is no further changes will be needed once V2 is released other than adding a table for V2 as the feed will include a flag for which version of condor that the task is for.

We hope you will like what you see and the new look that condor has got now.
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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby primitive_6 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:57 pm

Hope you will fix the forum error that happens every time we post something. Its a little bit annoying

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Postby Capricorne » Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:20 pm

primitive_6 wrote:Hope you will fix the forum error that happens every time we post something. Its a little bit annoying

+1

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby CNorbee » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:18 pm

Thanks for you the infos Tom.
We are looking forward to it.
Come on released, the
Condor v2 world :!: :wink: :D
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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby macsimc » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:31 am

Just a thought, why not use a memcache for the serverlist? If you really need to persist the data, then only the queries for updating the data will be needed.

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby tom eagles » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:16 pm

We already use memcached plus other code and memory and other server / content delivery optimisations :) There is a simple heartbeat that runs a query, displays the updated table and spits out the json file, clears servers that are no longer online.

Memcache is only good when you wish to cache content that is relatively static in nature but is database driven such as info stored in a CRM and store previous queries in ram as the serverlist is updated every few mins there is really no benefit to caching it that way.

There is a simple heartbeat that runs a query, displays the updated table and spits out the json file, clears servers that are no longer online, What we do is simply parse the same json file, cache the resulting content and the routine simply regenerates the page when the heartbeat cycle runs again.
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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby OXO » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:51 pm

See everybody- we have the top guys working on this :D
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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby peter stafford allen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:05 pm

Anyway you could nudge support to reply to my issue with plane packs?

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby bades » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:01 am

OXO wrote:See everybody- we have the top guys working on this :D



LOL....yaaah! :mrgreen:
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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby BBU25 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:29 am

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby SteveK » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:46 pm

BBU25 wrote:?

OXO opened his mouth and put his foot right in it. :D [see his assertion the 3rd December post above, and the outcome of the work in the "Important news!!" topic. ]

Now we know the real reason why OXO doesn't say much :D (if he has this effect :D )

[Tom/OXO - only kidding - If you were not sure, then backing out was the right call]

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby macsimc » Thu Dec 28, 2017 3:15 pm

tom eagles wrote:Memcache is only good when you wish to cache content that is relatively static in nature but is database driven such as info stored in a CRM and store previous queries in ram


Totally wrong. and the approach may have been good for 2007.
In 2017 (almost 2018) we should talk about realtime data. A websocket implementation would have been a lot more modern and robust ... could have been used for both official page and third parties.

tom eagles wrote: as the serverlist is updated every few mins there is really no benefit to caching it that way.


I really think the serverlist gets updated with each event happening on the running multiplayer servers..

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby BBU25 » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:51 pm

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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby tom eagles » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:33 pm

macsimc wrote:
tom eagles wrote:Memcache is only good when you wish to cache content that is relatively static in nature but is database driven such as info stored in a CRM and store previous queries in ram


Totally wrong. and the approach may have been good for 2007.
In 2017 (almost 2018) we should talk about realtime data. A websocket implementation would have been a lot more modern and robust ... could have been used for both official page and third parties.

tom eagles wrote: as the serverlist is updated every few mins there is really no benefit to caching it that way.


I really think the serverlist gets updated with each event happening on the running multiplayer servers..


No The database is updated every x amount of seconds by the dedicated servers, and the exact method above (although we run a cluster of servers) handles the largest educational video hosting site in the world! So yeah we do know what we are talking about.
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Re: Announcement regarding upcoming changes to website!

Postby UrosM » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:01 pm

We want product, not talking :!:
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