CONDOR

nice task...

Though i did quite well untill uploading lol

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My lowest save yet!!

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Tony Cook (TC9)
"Once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned forever skyward, for there you have been, and there you long to return" Leonardo Da Vinci

Most fun task in SBC so far! Nice
Unnecesary with the no pda though if you ask me. Condor doesn't do that screenshot thing very well at turnpoints anyways.
I probably have 10 screens of TP1 - all of them inside the tp looking over left wing.. My teammates only needed a few. With that, the fair competition element is gone.

Cheers!
Kriss

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I can't quite agree with that. Condor seems to be quite dumb when it comes to the screenshots - if you are within the assigned cylinder and your left wing points at the turnpoint and you look left and take the screenshot, it works. The problem is that it's pretty difficult to achieve all four of the above simultaneously Firstly, because with Condor (or any other non-3D computer game), you don't have the depth perception you'd normally have. Sort of like driving your car with one eye closed (yes, I know, it's possible but are you really sure your no claims bouns is worth it? Secondly, because you can't really lean to the side and get just a bit better view of what's below while still flying straight and level. You must bank, which comes at a cost (of lost altitude, usually). And then, the turnpoints aren't really well defined in Condor. OK, so you're supposed to turn at the airport. But where at the airport, actually? If you're high enough, that's less of a problem - just bank and you see it all. But if you're lower, it's not necessarily so.

Solutions? I can think of two, both pretty sufficient. One can enable the turnpoint helpers, making them visible from minimum possible distance (1km). That dispenses with reality aspect a bit, but not really that much - if you don't know where to look for them, they won't help you anyway, but when you find them, turning is much easier even if the turnpoint radius is less than the visibility range. Or one can clearly describe the turnpoints in the briefing. This helps keep the realism at maximum, but then you have to make sure not to hit the language barriers. As a not so random example - I once flew a task where the turnpoints were called "les cretes" and "lacs de planchi". The first was easy, even though the first translator I used told me I should turn the Cretans. But the second point, which got consistently translated to "lakes board" was quite confusing...

So: yes, please - more no-PDA tasks! Just make them less impossible, technologically

Best,

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Łukasz Grochal

Or, increase the radius of the turnpoints... Which would be the easiest solutions of all..
Case is that you can clearly see on my logfile (have a look on CC) that I am within the turnpoint, banking left in circles(taking pictures.. I have the screens) and it didn't work.
So... It .. Does ... Not ..... Work ... Like ... It ... Is .. Supposed .... To....
No PDA tasks are pointless as you don't fly around without PDA in real today. And when navigating "old school" style, one wouldn't use poor Condor maps printed on an A-4 sheet anywas.

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I requested and I got it thx a lot Even looking on my results
Such tasks I will remember long ...long time

Regards
Andrzej

No, not really. By your own account, you were inside the turnpoint cylinder and yet you had problems getting an 'acceptable' screenshot. So it would only be worse if you had 4 times more points to aim at if the radius was - say - 2 times bigger or 16 times more points if it was 4 times as big. The only solution, really, is to make it plain what you should aim at - one way or another

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Łukasz Grochal

at "old" time before PDA, turnpoint was a ~90 deg sector with radius 2...5 km - no cylinder with radius 500m , because it could not be done properly photos
so at no-PDA tasks that will be best solution like the good old days
good example:
http://www.virtualsoaring.eu/batoh?page=briefing
+ hidden tp

As I understand it, you have to be inside the turnpoint and at the same time include the excact turnpoint on your photo. With a larger radius you can take the screenshot at greater distance from the "turnpoint" itself. This should increase your chances of getting it right.
If they used triangular shapes back in the days we should definetly do so in Condor aswell.. I don't get this shit anyway. I wan't my PDA back

Cheers!
Kristoffer

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Since I was extremely ennoyed by the fact that I outlanded I did some tests.
Increasing the Turnpoint sectors, like 5000 meters or so, doesn't work.
I was at the edge, but inside such sector, at a low altitude, and could take any screenshot I liked, but no success.
Presumably you have to be at a close (but unknown) distance from the Turnpoint to make a successful screenshot.

I also did a partial refly of day #17 with thermal helpers ON, to confirm that it was very well possible to miss any and all thermals on this task, easily.

I have fun on any type-, or plane class task, except on no-PDA tasks, for Condor-technical reasons.
So, please, no more no-PDA tasks.
Also, my rig doesn't handle narrow thermals well....

Thanks

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Reg: PH-7270
Cn: "ZA"

Hi
I do not understand the results of last competition.I have the 120 position and velocity of 94.8 km / h. while Fabrice Leroy (CN VO) at a speed of 59.9 km / h takes place 96.There are a few riders ahead of me with worse outcomes (Benoit Lion BL3,Dariusz Banucha WY,Arnaud Blondeau BLD,Mangirdas Juodinis 07M,Borislav Antolovic 41A and others.I know that I have only 4 penalty points and I know that you are actually a glider.But so much difference I do not understand and do not know if other results are reliable.

Włodzimierz Kowalski CN DB9
rudekowal

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Those pilots who has less than 2/3 the speed of the winner get only distance points, and you all flew the same distance. But since you got some penalty points you end up behind the other pilots with distance points (without penalty).

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Thank you, now I understand
Best regards

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Today's was a very, very, VERY nice task. Thank you

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Łukasz Grochal

In the last task (21) I started late and finished at about 1am.
When I tried to upload the task the server said that upload time ended at 0:30am

So, what's the point of allowing 1h45m start task window if you can't upload the file afterwords?