CONDOR

Virtual Standard Class Championship from the 2nd to the 31st January 2010. Like the name says you will fly Standard Class
Gliders. Used scenery is "Hahnweide SW Germany" and start and finish is the Hahnweide. The competition is 5 races long and the
servers will be hosted on saturdays, sundays and tuesdays. There is only one chance to fly, the first try is counted. The race
mode is the one of the Grand Prix, you will get points related to your position and every race is a regatta. Good Luck guys, see
you on the servers!




General Information

Competition type: Regatta starts, Grand Prix System
Scenery: HW_SW_Germany (Hahnweide)
Start type: Aerotow
Join Time: 35 Minutes
Server Host: 19:00 UTC - 20:00 CET
Race days: saturday, sunday, tuesday @ 19:00 UTC

Day1: 02. / 03. / 05. January
Day2: 09. / 10. / 12. January
Day3: 16. / 17. / 19. January
Day4: 23. / 24. / 26. January
Day5: 30. / 31. January, 2. February

Practice days: /
Number of flights: 5
Allowed tries per race: 1
Server name: VSCC Day X


Feel free to help me, this is my first competition


Links:

Blog of VSCC: http://vscc2010.blogspot.com/
Registration: http://condor-club.eu/comp/show/0/?id=52

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http://forum.condorsoaring.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10900

Registration on http://condor-club.eu/comp/show/0/?id=52

If there is anyone who can give me some help how to handle with the results,
please contact via PM =)

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http://forum.condorsoaring.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10900

hi, do you mean to have a ranking for every race's day? (sat , sun, thu)
if you don't, how can we have a general ranking only by positions for 3 differents days?



how many time do you think to set after stop join before the race starts?

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Time until race starts will be related to cloudbase and lift, enough to get from tow to cloudbase until the race starts!
I think it will be between 12 to 20 Minutes!


Actually the scoring is a bit on ice, CC just has the 1000-Points scoring and I think that we'll use it.
If not, I'll take the results of every three races together and the 9 Fastest will get the points like
they're defined in the Grand Prix System. I'll give you more information in the week before the first
race starts.

Regards,
Michael

See http://vscc2010.blogspot.com/

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Today's practice race was pretty nice!

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Frank (TA1)

Question for GP scoring:

Does the pilot has to finish in order to be scored? If he is 2nd in ranking but has outlanded/crashed, does he get 9 points or 0 ?

I'm updating CC for GP scoring, should come before the end of the week.

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#1 will get 1 point, plus 1 point for each pilot that finishes (including himself), with a maximum of 10.
Besides that there is a possibility for a bonus point when one reaches a certain tp first.

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Dutch (Junior) Gliding Team

Hi,
Regarding the time between last aerotow and race start:- Please note that this should also be related to the weather profile. If it is weak weather, then more time is needed to start at max' start, especially as it is a regatta start and you can have only one attempt to fly the task! Otherwise too much is left to chance and a ragged start lowers the thrill of a close race. See ya!
Sticky Digit.

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Hi I am a Well experienced X/country and Racing Pilot that enjoys the thrill of racing . If you see me wanting to join, PLEASE let me in. Iwill always stay the course and play by the rules.

So only the 9 first pilots are scored and the nineth have 2 pts? Or I misunderstood something?
#1= 1+9 points = 10 pts
#2= 1+8
#3= 1+7
#4= 1+6
#5= 1+5
#6= 1+4
#7= 1+3
#8= 1+2
#9= 1+1
#10= 0

or
#1= 1+10, caped to 10, so it's just 0+10
#2= 0+9
#3= 0+8
#4= 0+7
#5= 0+6
#6= 0+5
#7= 0+4
#8= 0+3
#9= 0+2
#10= 0+1

And does GP scoring applies only for regatta races?

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Found FAI rules!

At first reading, it seems GP is always regatta, as start time used for scoring is not when the pilot crosses the start line but when the start line is opened...

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What if i want to fly just because i want to, As in, I don't care about the points as long as the company is good.

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How do you consider the penalty points in GP scoring?

Fox9

When I read FAI documentation, scoring is based on time, as the 1000pts scoring does.
So I use the 1000pts scoring (including penalties point for cloud flying, etc) to generate the ranking, then I set the GP score accordingly to the finishers rank.
Then, if the fastest pilot is ranked 2nd because of penalties (and the 2nd fastest is ranked first), he'll have 8 points.

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Guys,

The reason the GP races were invented is to make sailplane racing more 'spectator-friendly'. The way the FAI chose to do that is to always have a regatta start, and to make the scoring system easy to figure out and more exciting (more chances for lead changes, etc)

GP Races are always REGATTA starts
GP Race scoring is as follows:

1st = 9 + 1 bonus pt = 10
2nd = 8
3rd = 7
...
9th = 1
10th and rest = 0

Overall score is determined by the sum of day points.

In RL GP races, penalties aren't assessed based on a 1000-point setup - they are assessed based on referee/judge input. In Condor you might want to set a rule that says 100 penalty points = 1 GP point, so if you won the day but had > 100 but < 200 pen points, you get 9 instead of 10, etc.

Just my $0.02 (USD)

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Frank (TA1)

Penalties should be given in seconds.
GP flying is about places, not about speed.
Doesnt matter if you finish 30min or 30 sec faster.
If you aply penalty points, it means your place will be depending on what the slower pilots will do.
If more pilots finish, there will be more speed points, so penalty would become less.
If only 1 finishes with a lot of penalty, this person might get 2nd in 1000p system, while GP system only scores when you finish.
This is also how it is done in RL.

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Dutch (Junior) Gliding Team