CONDOR

Just a Question
How come an airtow in condor is done from the
wench hook location and not the tow hook in the nose?

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I think some planes don't have the nose hook. In RL it makes the first part of the takeoff very difficult until you have full rudder action. I saw a SZD55 try 3x to takeoff until he managed to do it. It was a light crosswind.

Cya

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René
Team Brasil
PT-XRP

I have not tried a tow from the wench release
I asked my Uncle to try it on his next flight
He just laughed said yea If I want to pay for the damage after spin out.
I will not push it with him as I would not want to lose my privileges.
He flies a Nimbus 4d in southern CA.
I just wondered why the Nose release wasn't done in Condor.
I have never flown in Europe and assumed that
towing from the wench release was how it was done over there.

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Towing from the winchhook is done. My club's ls-6c only has a winchhook. And one of our Ls-4's as well if i remember correctly. I even think the factory version of the asw-19 and the Ka-6e doesn't even have an option for a towrelease. But i've seen some modified one's. It's more difficult to tow with the winchhook because of the increased tendency to groundloop.

I don't know the reason why condor only use's the winchhooks. It has been like that sinds i first got condor .

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PH-2729, WS

Yes I did know that there were some planes with only winch hooks.
But gladly I have not experienced that in RL. just Condor.
but with the practice in Condor who knows maybe I might try it
sometime...... (NOT).

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I have never flown a tow with a nose hook. UK gliders never had such a thing. I have over 700 tows in my book. I don't remember ever having a problem.

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Old wooden ship pilot
Reg No. 464 (LLC 377)
CN: AW

I keep practising on Condor.
Heavy Crosswinds are a bitch though.

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I think I have probably only flown a couple of gliders with a nose hook just about everything else had the hook on the landing gear. Does a Nimbus 4 have a nose hook? The Nimbus 2 & 3 didn't (in the UK) Cant say I ever found it a problem flying aerotow with the cg hook.

In crosswinds keep the tail firmly on the ground with elevator until you have enough speed for the rudder to become effective, also start with full rudder.

K2/K7/K13?

This is a feature of Condor which is rather unrealistic. In RL you would never attempt to take off in a heavy crosswind either tow or winch. The danger to the tug would not be tolerated, and for the winch driver the same thing applies. In RL you move the launch point or stop flying. I don't fly tasks in Condor with silly conditions like 50Km/hr winds at 90 deg to your flight path. This is probably why you see people join a task but leave before take off. Even in good wind directions a strong wind may restrict flying. I flew once in a 50Km/hr wind (straight down the strip) on aerotow after the CFI said no one with less than 500hrs could fly. This was a challenge that two of us could not resist. A former WWII Me109 pilot flying our Chipmunk towed me in a Ka18, and it was the wildest ride either of us had ever had. When you got up there you couldn't do much anyway without risking being blown away from the strip. I didn't do it again.

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Old wooden ship pilot
Reg No. 464 (LLC 377)
CN: AW

K2/7/13 I always flew with the cg hook. Do the K2 and K7 have nose hooks? I don't remember seeing one. If The K13 has one I never saw it used.

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Old wooden ship pilot
Reg No. 464 (LLC 377)
CN: AW

I know for shure that a nimbus 3dt has a nosehook.

We once went flying with a 50 km/h wind straight down the strip, one of the instructors took a Ka-8 for a flight, and he got overtaken by bicycles on the ground. And i winchlauched the ask-21 to 720m on a 1200m strip . Normaly you only get about 400, maybe 450 .

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PH-2729, WS

I was curios why there were no cross runways and no runway selection.

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As of now there is no support for multi runway airports. If you build a scenery with the toolkit you can only select the position, length, with and direction of the runway. Condor chooses the runway that lies most in the direction of the wind. But at low windspeeds (less than 10 km/h or something like that) it uses the "prefered direction" which the scenery developer chooses when he builds the airport.

But quite a lot of RL airports only have one runway, and it never realy happens that you get a perfect wind straight across the runway. And if it does the next hour its diffirent again.

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PH-2729, WS

Yes that is true.

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